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Gone by Sunday (diatribe)

{ 02:32 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { 9 comments } { Link }
I'm leaving.   I will have another blog set up soon, and by Sunday, I'll be gone.

It really took a few things to make me decide.  One was the "trouble" post on the front porch.

I know that profanity and vulgarity aren't allowed here, and as such, I don't use them.  I have seen the effective use of such words here.  They don't bother me nearly as much as some of the hate speech spewed by self proclaimed "Christians" I have seen here.

When I signed up here, I saw this place as a haven for homesteader types.  I had no idea it was a "Christian" site.  I should have gotten the hint, but I didn't.  Even if I had, I don't think it would have mattered much.  I have always had a great deal of respect for Christianity.  Granted, I don't consider myself a Christian, but I love the Bible.  It's a great read.  I really started to get the clue that this site has a seriously Christian bent, from the top down, when the comment about the virus a while back was made"Several Christian sites have been attacked."  I always had just figured that most of the people here were Christian.  I didn't realize that this is who the site is intended for.  It says nothing like that on the home page.  It should.

The problem I can have with Christianity is, well, some "Christians."  When did things change from "Judge not.." to "you are evil?"  I see people here use scripture all of the time to show why folks that don't believe exactly as they do are, well, "evil."

I don't see much mention of the following:

John 13-34:  A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Romans 13-8: 
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

1 Thess 4-9:   But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

They are out of context, granted, but I see that happen all the time here.  It would seem that taking scripture out of context, you could really prove or disprove just about anything you want to.  For your desires, not Gods.

I do see posts like the "Study on Satan" and the like.  Nice to know that no matter how beautiful the Bible can be, you can always find something in it to proclaim those "other" than you as in the grip of Satan. (Smell that, that's sarcasm.)  It reminds me of "the church lady" on Saturday Night Live some years back.  At least there, it was tongue in cheek.  Here, it's pretty serious.  And a shame.

Posts like the one mentioned above show those of us that aren't self-proclaimed Christians that we really aren't wanted here.  "Trouble in blogland" perhaps, but really it's just another reason to leave.

It's too bad.  I like it here.  However, I would rather blog somewhere where truly everything goes, than somewhere where the rules are slanted toward so called "Christian" hate-mongers.  Someplace where everyone can spew whatever garbage they want to spew, and not get shut down because they use a vulgarity now and then while hate speech is tolerated.

You know, somewhere that's open to all people, not just fundamentalist "Christians."  Some one like me, who believes in a Creator, but doesn't limit that belief to any one dogma.  Any dogma.

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So, as such, I'm outta here.  I will post a link to my new blog sometime soon.  Plus, for those who want to see it, I will post a link to my "darkerside" blog as well.   My posts here will remain up, my e-mail address and messenger will remain up, and I will come back now and then to read peoples blogs that interest me.  I probably won't go through the "last 100" anymore.  While most of what is here is good, useful info, too much diatribe exists as well.  I don't mind the diatribe too much, but I can't ignore it.  And here, I don't want to add to it anymore.

In the next few days, I will post a couple more posts.  Then I'm gone.  If those powers that be want me to remove my blog in it's entirety, please let me know so I can transfer my posts elsewhere.

Goodbye.  Pax vobiscum.

Raymond

~~No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. 1 John 4:12 (NIV)




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{ 04:13 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by Sweetmama2 }
you made very good points. Sorry to see you leave.
see ya on the flip side
Sweetmama

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{ 06:16 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by morningsunshine }
I am so sorry to see you go. I know what you mean about the judging and the evangalizing around here. there are days I wonder if homesteading has actually crossed the minds of the people here, or if it is all "how to be saved."
You have a lot to share. I will miss your homestead updates. I would like your new web address so we can touch base occasionally.
and, I think HSB will be the poorer for your exodus.

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{ 07:16 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by MrsBurns }
I'll miss your slant on the crazy chickens and the garden results you'll have this summer after all you've done to get ready for it. Sorry to see you go....and you don't have to be a Christian to blog here. Check back in when you get some spare time. DeniseB

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{ 08:30 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by Trina }
Ray,
I to hate to see you go. Unfortantley you are not the first to leave because of this... when I first started blogging here there were a few women posting that I really enjoyed, they had wonderful ideas, were witty and I really loved their posts.. but they were pagan and not to be tolerated... so they gave up after a time and left... It hurts my heart because I dont think this is how things need to be. I dont blame you for saying the heck with it and going... but wish you wouldnt... take care.. Trina

Until Sunday

{ 08:42 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by Musketman }
"Hang on ye drifters now you got places to go and people to meet
Watch out for the shifting tide where ever you may travel."
Drifters (A Painter Passing Through)
~Gordon Lightfoot

I thank you for the time you spent reading my nonsense.
Best to you and yours: Randy



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{ 09:09 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by countrydreamn }
Bummer, hoped that you might say.
I am staying going to ignore everything but homesteading stuff, cause that is why I am here.
I stayed away from it for a while but the military thing caused me to stubble.
Hope your not leaving cause of me and that post.
Will try and keep in touch.
Will miss your posts, maybe in time you will come back.

Blessings and Godspeed,
Debi


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{ 09:43 , Friday, March 30, 2007 } { Posted by farmgal35 }
I hate to see you go to. Some many of the ones I love to read their posts are leaving. Let us know where you are going to blog. I have been thinking about moving to. I still have a few I like to read their post, who are still posting. I really don`t have a lot of time to read post now or post myself. Maybe things will get better later on. Sheryl

Ray

{ 04:36 , Saturday, March 31, 2007 } { Posted by happyowl }
I'm right there with ya buddy! I love your posts and this one, I think won the blue ribbon! You were able to say what so many of us tried but couldn't get across. I found that it was just easier to leave then try and convince people that we really are no different. People just don't want to hear that and they don't want to think, that maybe the way they put their views across comes out mean and vindictive(sp). Of course if we give our point of view, than we are evil, evil people! Sigh..... when will people learn to respect and honour our differences???? I've said it before and I'll say it again, if we were all the same, what kind of world would that be??????? BORING!

I'll be seeing you soon

Brightest blessings

Heather

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{ 07:47 , Monday, April 2, 2007 } { Posted by CatherineAnn }
Ray,
I am also sorry you've decided to leave HSB. I've enjoyed reading your blog.
Your quotes from the Bible about love were right on target. That is exactly how God expects us to live and treat each other. Jesus said that people will know we are his disciples by our love for one another. As for those who claim Christianity and then outright attack people who are of a different belief system.....well, I'll leave that one to God. Yes, I am a "Follower of Jesus"; I am a Christian in that sense; but as for the type of "christianity" that some have displayed in recent weeks... I do not want to be associated with that in the least.
I am sorry that you've been disappointed by HSB... and will miss you.
Blessings,
Catherine

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